Heart's back to trolling for money to go to Michfest 2007. She needs airfare for her and her daughter this time to the tune of $1,006. LMAO. What more is there to say except this,
Dear Heart,
Leaving your ticket buying to the very last minute like this means that you most likely will be paying through the nose for those tickets (or, more to the point, your readers/followers/whatever will be paying top dollar for those tickets you could not manage to buy on your own even though you thought to buy the ticket to Michfest 2007 already). I guess it's easy not to think ahead when you do not plan to be responsible for those higher prices. How convenient for YOU.
This is really confusing on many levels since you like to pawn yourself off as a very intelligent woman. Unless, of course, this is just another scam where you have known all along you couldn't afford the airfare which is what I am more inclined to believe and which hopefully your readers/followers/whatever will believe as well.
You're also now saying you're going to give the update on the Hullaballo sometime today. I could see that one coming a mile away. You probably should have done that last week because now we all think that the only reason you're updating is because you want to make sure you get donations for your airfare to Michfest 2007.
Sincerely,
Wasn't born yesterday!
Tuesday, July 31, 2007
Thursday, July 26, 2007
Um...where's the recap?
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm still waiting on the Hullaballo recap that Heart promised like a month ago. Wonder why her culties aren't questioning why she was so quick to take their money and is so slow in delivering the recap?
I guess breaking promises is good practice for Heart's run for the presidency.
I guess breaking promises is good practice for Heart's run for the presidency.
Wednesday, July 18, 2007
More threats and whatnot
Oh dear. Looks like the friendly feminists who love and support women are at it again! Threats are a-flying and whose name should pop up but good old STORMY. Yes, I've written about her before. She's an angry woman and hates Renegade Evolution and had a big to-do a while ago where she threatened to post all the personal information she had "collected" on RE to try and silence her. RE agreed to mind her own business and even apologized but that's not enough for STORMY. Nope, she's issuing threats again. Let's take a look:
stormy // Jul 17th 2007 at 4:21 pm
"As porn is just about everywhere, and even young kids are exposed to softcore in the form of music videos, there is really only one way they can go with it:[placard] “WE DEMAND PORN FOR EMBRYOS IN UTERO !”
Oh, and if it is a certain narcissistic sex worker primarily behind this site, again slagging off radfems… ‘embarrassment among peers’ can be but a click away - did she not learn anything last time about constantly attacking radfems?
If ‘they’ (stupidly) want to promote ‘pro-porn activism’ (an oxymoron if ever I heard one) then that actually isn’t the same as ’slagging off radfems fest #5,327′. Go promote porn to embyros in utero, for they are about the only humans on the planet not yet exposed to porn FFS."
STORMY is such a disappointment. She's filled with lots of rage, which seems to be a common characteristic among feminists. They're always so damn angry all the time. Don't any of you ever laugh? Or smile? Anywho, stupid STORMY thinks that she's the only one who can "collect" personal information about people but rosarose, a friend of RE, put the kibosh on that type of delusional thinking by posting this:
rosarose said...
"I know that no one here is going to agree with what I say here, or approve of my tactics. I don’t care.Stormy, the moment you first threatened Ren I started my own files. Everything that’s out there on the net is stored and can be found after all. You threatened her to make her stop. You continue to do so. You sit in a position where you feel that any arbitrary thing she says, and perceived slight, or critical word is an attack against radical feminism and you hold your file over her head. “Just a click” you say. You lord over her with this bullshit treaty, meanwhile radical feminists such as Witchy Woo and V have felt free to attack her with impunity because of the security you’ve offered them via your underhanded tactics. Some people hate these tactics. I’m one of them. But when someone I like and care about is threatened, I’ll use the enemy’s tactics to retaliate.So, let’s see how you like it, Stormy. Stop. I didn’t want to take it this far, but you’ve left me no choice. You’ve pushed me to it. The first shove came with the first threat; this last threat has put me on the line. If you do not cease and desist in threatening Ren, you will find that a great deal of information about you, all out there publicly, has also been collected. You will also find that because I can’t be assured just information on you would be motivational enough, that information on several of your allies, namely those who have been most abusive to Ren and her friends, has also been collected. Names, home towns, favorite places to go, places of business, in some cases photos, photos of friends, family, other such choice information, and yes, their stories and histories. Complete with the often-inconsistent tales, drama, trauma and pain. I don’t believe in victimizing victims for the most part, but when victims become abusive, or stand back idly and allow their friends to victimize other people, my empathy and understanding ends. You’re not the only one capable of pouring through blogs, forums, comments, bio’s, links, and yes, publicly stored and cached sites, including your cherished Genderberg. So, what will make you stop, Stormy? After all, just like Ren in regards to you, you have no idea how far I’ve been willing to dig, how far I’ll be willing to go. I could say all this has been found in public places, just like you say to her, or I could be lying, just like you could be.So do we chance that? All that outing and embarrassment and pain and trauma for both sides, or do you stop, suck it up, and realize that you and radical feminism are not immune to and from criticism, including from people like Ren and her allies? For as much as you and yours bitch about silencing, you are the only one I’ve seen demand people take down their blogs and resort to outing and threatening tactics. Until now. You chose to play hardball, well game on…or are you ready to pack up your equipment, chill the fuck out, and go about your business, because just as I can bet the info you have would not only upset Ren, well, the info I have would not only upset you. This can all end reasonably though- That would require you stop threatening Ren, stop alluding to your little file, and basically leave her alone and let her speak her piece, even if you don’t like it…just as she’s pretty much allowed all of you to do, while ignoring you, unless your bullshit and venom has been spewed directly on her blog. Sound fair, Stormy? Does this work for you? Because you know, you by your own actions have forced me to do this. Oh wait, that’s complete bullshit. Just like Ren never forced you…now, do you want to back the fuck off, or not? She’s not your problem anymore, Stormy, I am, and I am more than willing to make myself one pain in the ass and dark spot in your life. Get it?"
Yikes. I don't think we want to mess with rosarose because she sounds like she means business. I kind of like it how the tables get turned on bullies when they're going around thinking they are superior and have the upper hand. RE has asked rosarose to stop with the threats and that's admirable but kind of boring. You're feminists after all and as we've all learned, feminists LOVE to bash other women who don't behave or hold the same thoughts as they do.
I'm still digging RE although more and more I seem to sense a pattern of drama with her blog. Things are quiet and then she'll create a post where trolls can trash her which seems a little silly to me. Instead of not posting the negative comments, she highlights them which also seems counterproductive, but whatevs! it's her blog.
stormy // Jul 17th 2007 at 4:21 pm
"As porn is just about everywhere, and even young kids are exposed to softcore in the form of music videos, there is really only one way they can go with it:[placard] “WE DEMAND PORN FOR EMBRYOS IN UTERO !”
Oh, and if it is a certain narcissistic sex worker primarily behind this site, again slagging off radfems… ‘embarrassment among peers’ can be but a click away - did she not learn anything last time about constantly attacking radfems?
If ‘they’ (stupidly) want to promote ‘pro-porn activism’ (an oxymoron if ever I heard one) then that actually isn’t the same as ’slagging off radfems fest #5,327′. Go promote porn to embyros in utero, for they are about the only humans on the planet not yet exposed to porn FFS."
STORMY is such a disappointment. She's filled with lots of rage, which seems to be a common characteristic among feminists. They're always so damn angry all the time. Don't any of you ever laugh? Or smile? Anywho, stupid STORMY thinks that she's the only one who can "collect" personal information about people but rosarose, a friend of RE, put the kibosh on that type of delusional thinking by posting this:
rosarose said...
"I know that no one here is going to agree with what I say here, or approve of my tactics. I don’t care.Stormy, the moment you first threatened Ren I started my own files. Everything that’s out there on the net is stored and can be found after all. You threatened her to make her stop. You continue to do so. You sit in a position where you feel that any arbitrary thing she says, and perceived slight, or critical word is an attack against radical feminism and you hold your file over her head. “Just a click” you say. You lord over her with this bullshit treaty, meanwhile radical feminists such as Witchy Woo and V have felt free to attack her with impunity because of the security you’ve offered them via your underhanded tactics. Some people hate these tactics. I’m one of them. But when someone I like and care about is threatened, I’ll use the enemy’s tactics to retaliate.So, let’s see how you like it, Stormy. Stop. I didn’t want to take it this far, but you’ve left me no choice. You’ve pushed me to it. The first shove came with the first threat; this last threat has put me on the line. If you do not cease and desist in threatening Ren, you will find that a great deal of information about you, all out there publicly, has also been collected. You will also find that because I can’t be assured just information on you would be motivational enough, that information on several of your allies, namely those who have been most abusive to Ren and her friends, has also been collected. Names, home towns, favorite places to go, places of business, in some cases photos, photos of friends, family, other such choice information, and yes, their stories and histories. Complete with the often-inconsistent tales, drama, trauma and pain. I don’t believe in victimizing victims for the most part, but when victims become abusive, or stand back idly and allow their friends to victimize other people, my empathy and understanding ends. You’re not the only one capable of pouring through blogs, forums, comments, bio’s, links, and yes, publicly stored and cached sites, including your cherished Genderberg. So, what will make you stop, Stormy? After all, just like Ren in regards to you, you have no idea how far I’ve been willing to dig, how far I’ll be willing to go. I could say all this has been found in public places, just like you say to her, or I could be lying, just like you could be.So do we chance that? All that outing and embarrassment and pain and trauma for both sides, or do you stop, suck it up, and realize that you and radical feminism are not immune to and from criticism, including from people like Ren and her allies? For as much as you and yours bitch about silencing, you are the only one I’ve seen demand people take down their blogs and resort to outing and threatening tactics. Until now. You chose to play hardball, well game on…or are you ready to pack up your equipment, chill the fuck out, and go about your business, because just as I can bet the info you have would not only upset Ren, well, the info I have would not only upset you. This can all end reasonably though- That would require you stop threatening Ren, stop alluding to your little file, and basically leave her alone and let her speak her piece, even if you don’t like it…just as she’s pretty much allowed all of you to do, while ignoring you, unless your bullshit and venom has been spewed directly on her blog. Sound fair, Stormy? Does this work for you? Because you know, you by your own actions have forced me to do this. Oh wait, that’s complete bullshit. Just like Ren never forced you…now, do you want to back the fuck off, or not? She’s not your problem anymore, Stormy, I am, and I am more than willing to make myself one pain in the ass and dark spot in your life. Get it?"
Yikes. I don't think we want to mess with rosarose because she sounds like she means business. I kind of like it how the tables get turned on bullies when they're going around thinking they are superior and have the upper hand. RE has asked rosarose to stop with the threats and that's admirable but kind of boring. You're feminists after all and as we've all learned, feminists LOVE to bash other women who don't behave or hold the same thoughts as they do.
I'm still digging RE although more and more I seem to sense a pattern of drama with her blog. Things are quiet and then she'll create a post where trolls can trash her which seems a little silly to me. Instead of not posting the negative comments, she highlights them which also seems counterproductive, but whatevs! it's her blog.
Tuesday, July 17, 2007
The deodorant can be found in aisle 3
This entry cracks me up. Dark daughter is a fairly new read of mine. I haven't quite figured her out and I'm fairly certain that's a good thing. From her writings, I gather she doesn't like too many people. She's always put off by everyone she encounters but I think that's just a defense mechanism. She finds nasty things to say about just everyone and calls it her being a nonconforming individual. Whatever. Anyway, in this post, dark daughter talks to her daughter (named Stinkapee in her blog, how apropos!) about hairy armpits, not using deodorant and not wearing bras. She is teaching her daughter to live without following any of the rules or expectations of other people which I applaud, however, I do take exception to the not using deodorant thing here:
On deodorant: "Mama, why do you wear deodorant?
"Mama's response: "Well, you already know that human beings are really just animals like all other life on goddess mother earth. Well, we've decided that we want to forget that we're animals. Only animals smell. Only animals give and get signals from how they smell. We want to smell like flowers and chemicals. Wimmin are expected to make sure their armpits, skin and genitals smell like flowers and chemicals. Yes, we know chemicals are bad. But most people get really upset if you leave the house without making sure you don't smell like an animal."
Uh oh. Let me just say that there is nothing attractive about body odor. Nothing. There is a difference between me and a gorilla and that difference is that I am a human being, NOT an animal and I sure as hell don't want to smell like one. Instead of spreading this bad advice about not using deodorant (it's the SUMMER, people), let's encourage others to spray away with whatever chemicals are necessary to keep the stench of body odor at bay.
On deodorant: "Mama, why do you wear deodorant?
"Mama's response: "Well, you already know that human beings are really just animals like all other life on goddess mother earth. Well, we've decided that we want to forget that we're animals. Only animals smell. Only animals give and get signals from how they smell. We want to smell like flowers and chemicals. Wimmin are expected to make sure their armpits, skin and genitals smell like flowers and chemicals. Yes, we know chemicals are bad. But most people get really upset if you leave the house without making sure you don't smell like an animal."
Uh oh. Let me just say that there is nothing attractive about body odor. Nothing. There is a difference between me and a gorilla and that difference is that I am a human being, NOT an animal and I sure as hell don't want to smell like one. Instead of spreading this bad advice about not using deodorant (it's the SUMMER, people), let's encourage others to spray away with whatever chemicals are necessary to keep the stench of body odor at bay.
Universal WTF?
I might put in a couple of entries today just because there are a few things I want to comment on. First of all Universal Plume. I tend to like her blog because she writes well and is passionate about a lot of things and she's interesting.
However...this particular post left me thinking WTF?
Here are the parts that left me shaking my head and concerned for the child:
"I want my son to be a gentle, effeminate man. Not just 'in touch with his feminine side'. I want him to BE feminine. Meaning I want him to take on all the behaviors traditionally assigned to women and make them his own. Live them proudly, without fear and in everyone's fucking face like a radical pink ninja."
And also this:
"I'd be THRILLED if he turned out to be gay. The world needs more gay people. Enough with the straightness already. I sincerely hope we are a dying breed. Good riddance to heterosexist heterosupremacy."
I guess the part I don't understand is all the hating of the male thing and wanting her son to be gay. I've never in my life heard that or seen that from anyone and have a hard time taking it seriously. There are lots of women I know who are just as vicious as men so holding women up as some sort of goddesses who can do no wrong is simplistic and unrealistic. Raise your son to be a good human being and that should be enough. Sheesh.
However...this particular post left me thinking WTF?
Here are the parts that left me shaking my head and concerned for the child:
"I want my son to be a gentle, effeminate man. Not just 'in touch with his feminine side'. I want him to BE feminine. Meaning I want him to take on all the behaviors traditionally assigned to women and make them his own. Live them proudly, without fear and in everyone's fucking face like a radical pink ninja."
And also this:
"I'd be THRILLED if he turned out to be gay. The world needs more gay people. Enough with the straightness already. I sincerely hope we are a dying breed. Good riddance to heterosexist heterosupremacy."
I guess the part I don't understand is all the hating of the male thing and wanting her son to be gay. I've never in my life heard that or seen that from anyone and have a hard time taking it seriously. There are lots of women I know who are just as vicious as men so holding women up as some sort of goddesses who can do no wrong is simplistic and unrealistic. Raise your son to be a good human being and that should be enough. Sheesh.
Sunday, July 15, 2007
Hating White People
Shannon hates white people. She hates them when they talk about their dogs and care about their dogs and she lumps all white people together the majority of the time she has something to say about white people. It's discouraging because when the same thing is done to black people (if they are all lumped together and referred to as a whole when it is a small number), it's a crime but it's not a crime when she does it to white people. I smell hypocrisy.
Friday, July 6, 2007
Monday, July 2, 2007
Get your kid and mother hating on!
In her latest post, Twisty has a new theory that the patriarchy is to blame for obnoxious kids. Just when I thought Twisty and her readers couldn't get any more repulsive, they've gone and surprised me by kicking it up a notch. The discussion is whether women should have women only beaches (no kids allowed!). How do these women live being so fucking oppressed 24/7? Life is fucking brutal for them and removing children from the beaches would most definitely improve their quality of life. Children make too much noise! Children run around too much! Children don't behave! I guess all these women are conveniently forgetting that they were once noisy, rambunctious, obnoxious kids, too.
I wish someone would explain to me what the hell is wrong with online feminists. Some of the comments in this thread have to be read to be believed and I will post some of the more incredulously hateful ones in a moment. I'm guessing these are grown women who are hating on children and mothers like this and it is, in a word, despicable. I've got to believe that these are women who don't feel valued or loved in this world because it has always been my experience that it's the people who lack self-esteem and self love who need to put other people down. They do this so that they don't have to take the time to examine their own feelings and it's just such a pity because life is short and these women are simply living one miserable day after another with no end to their misery anywhere in sight.
On the one hand they are agreeing that children are oppressed and then they condone oppressing children so that women can romp on the beach by themselves without any kiddos around. I know! How hypocritical!
Without further ado, I present the mother and children haters:
roamaround says:
"And speaking of being antifeminist, the shared loathing of the (white, yuppy) mothers and the male staff at my pool toward the single (white, nerdy) women who dared to object to the new Kid’s Swim is patriarchy in action. They might as well be chanting “burn the witch.”
It’s not about objecting to the children’s existence. The kids take over four of the six lanes previously reserved for lap swim and jump all over making waves and throwing balls on your head. It’s pretty much a nightmare for us serious swimmers, most of whom are women.
If there is a class and/or entitlement issue, it’s the yuppy mothers who are the ones who seem to me to feel entitled in this case. They don’t want to take their kids to the Y with all the riff raff, so of course we should all be thrilled with Johnny’s bomb dive."
Hattie says:
Now you wouldn’t want to deprive the little lads of their first lessons in female anatomy, would you? Nothing irritates me more than little boys gazing their fill in the woman’s locker room. Or even little girls, to tell you the truth. Most mothers teach their children to be discreet, but some don’t. Some have this odd belief that the whole world is a “learning experience” for their kids. Mothers of sons are the major offenders along those lines.I think a woman’s only beach is a great idea. Just because it’s outdoors should make no difference."
Silence says:
Which brings me to my next comment — why is it that kids scream for their MAMA’s attention twenty-four hours a day? Would women need beaches where kids weren’t allowed if the men who sired the little dears were more involved in their lives? Or if society had advanced to the point where kids didn’t have to be neurotic balls of neediness?
My opinion is that in the world we inhabit today there is no ideal compromise. In our society, women are expected to have children, to love them, and to bury their own desires for the sake of their children’s needs. (And I’m not even getting into their husband’s needs here!) These expectations are not made of men. If they were, this wouldn’t be a feminist issue. So let women have a child-free beach, preferably with a supervised child beach nearby where they can drop off their young ones if they have no one to watch them for an hour or two. Because although we all want to think that children are wonderful, the truth is, the way they’re socialized now, they can quickly become insufferable with their screaming and running. Blame the patriarchy, but in the meantime, let women get a little rest.
Personally, I like kids the same way I like everybody else. That is, some are simply delightful and others I’d just as soon drop-kick into the nearest river.
Carol says:
I don’t have a problem with children per se. I deal with children well and talk to them like people. What I find really annoying are the people that immediately start screaming “what about the CHILDREN?” every time something goes wrong. The oil refinery has a toxic spill “what about the children living downwind?”, the public park gets closed for maintenance “What about the children?” An ice cream shop proprietor posted a small sign asking that children “Please use your inside voice” was pilloried. Give me a break. Yes, children are people too. No argument. But I am supposed to be well behaved. So can they. It can be taught. It should be taught. By BOTH parents. A child-free zone on a beach is not the problem. The assumption that children who have not been taught the basic politeness that the rest of us have should have the right to run roughshod over us polite people is ridiculous. If a child kicks sand on me and I ask little Johnny to please go over their and kick, I should be able to expect that Johnny will not start screaming at me and kick more sand on me and THEN have mother-hen mommy telling me I am a bad woman becasue I don’t think her kid is the cat’s meow!
Ta says:
If you want to be with kids…fine, allow us that want a childfree zone a few acres. Allow that diversity in the world."
I want to mention that there were a few women defending children and mothers/parents and Thank God for them because otherwise I would really be sad about humanity today. I think it's people who write things like what's posted above who need children in their lives the most.
I wish someone would explain to me what the hell is wrong with online feminists. Some of the comments in this thread have to be read to be believed and I will post some of the more incredulously hateful ones in a moment. I'm guessing these are grown women who are hating on children and mothers like this and it is, in a word, despicable. I've got to believe that these are women who don't feel valued or loved in this world because it has always been my experience that it's the people who lack self-esteem and self love who need to put other people down. They do this so that they don't have to take the time to examine their own feelings and it's just such a pity because life is short and these women are simply living one miserable day after another with no end to their misery anywhere in sight.
On the one hand they are agreeing that children are oppressed and then they condone oppressing children so that women can romp on the beach by themselves without any kiddos around. I know! How hypocritical!
Without further ado, I present the mother and children haters:
roamaround says:
"And speaking of being antifeminist, the shared loathing of the (white, yuppy) mothers and the male staff at my pool toward the single (white, nerdy) women who dared to object to the new Kid’s Swim is patriarchy in action. They might as well be chanting “burn the witch.”
It’s not about objecting to the children’s existence. The kids take over four of the six lanes previously reserved for lap swim and jump all over making waves and throwing balls on your head. It’s pretty much a nightmare for us serious swimmers, most of whom are women.
If there is a class and/or entitlement issue, it’s the yuppy mothers who are the ones who seem to me to feel entitled in this case. They don’t want to take their kids to the Y with all the riff raff, so of course we should all be thrilled with Johnny’s bomb dive."
Hattie says:
Now you wouldn’t want to deprive the little lads of their first lessons in female anatomy, would you? Nothing irritates me more than little boys gazing their fill in the woman’s locker room. Or even little girls, to tell you the truth. Most mothers teach their children to be discreet, but some don’t. Some have this odd belief that the whole world is a “learning experience” for their kids. Mothers of sons are the major offenders along those lines.I think a woman’s only beach is a great idea. Just because it’s outdoors should make no difference."
Silence says:
Which brings me to my next comment — why is it that kids scream for their MAMA’s attention twenty-four hours a day? Would women need beaches where kids weren’t allowed if the men who sired the little dears were more involved in their lives? Or if society had advanced to the point where kids didn’t have to be neurotic balls of neediness?
My opinion is that in the world we inhabit today there is no ideal compromise. In our society, women are expected to have children, to love them, and to bury their own desires for the sake of their children’s needs. (And I’m not even getting into their husband’s needs here!) These expectations are not made of men. If they were, this wouldn’t be a feminist issue. So let women have a child-free beach, preferably with a supervised child beach nearby where they can drop off their young ones if they have no one to watch them for an hour or two. Because although we all want to think that children are wonderful, the truth is, the way they’re socialized now, they can quickly become insufferable with their screaming and running. Blame the patriarchy, but in the meantime, let women get a little rest.
Personally, I like kids the same way I like everybody else. That is, some are simply delightful and others I’d just as soon drop-kick into the nearest river.
Carol says:
I don’t have a problem with children per se. I deal with children well and talk to them like people. What I find really annoying are the people that immediately start screaming “what about the CHILDREN?” every time something goes wrong. The oil refinery has a toxic spill “what about the children living downwind?”, the public park gets closed for maintenance “What about the children?” An ice cream shop proprietor posted a small sign asking that children “Please use your inside voice” was pilloried. Give me a break. Yes, children are people too. No argument. But I am supposed to be well behaved. So can they. It can be taught. It should be taught. By BOTH parents. A child-free zone on a beach is not the problem. The assumption that children who have not been taught the basic politeness that the rest of us have should have the right to run roughshod over us polite people is ridiculous. If a child kicks sand on me and I ask little Johnny to please go over their and kick, I should be able to expect that Johnny will not start screaming at me and kick more sand on me and THEN have mother-hen mommy telling me I am a bad woman becasue I don’t think her kid is the cat’s meow!
Ta says:
If you want to be with kids…fine, allow us that want a childfree zone a few acres. Allow that diversity in the world."
I want to mention that there were a few women defending children and mothers/parents and Thank God for them because otherwise I would really be sad about humanity today. I think it's people who write things like what's posted above who need children in their lives the most.
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